Okay, if you wanted a step-by-step debunking of Dirtdog's dogshit advice.
Disclaimer: I'm not associated with the manosphere, I'm not a red pill or black pill guy, I'm not MGTOW, nor am I a PUA. I'm also not a blue pill guy either, so no women aren't perfect.
For the legend it goes as follows:
Correct
Kinda correct
Incorrect
Irrelevant/arbitrary
So without further ado, let's go.
I am surrounded by 20 year old girls in my life that are smart, capable, hard working and cute. Nobody is dating them. Not sure what the deal is, but I don’t get it.
Firstly, there could be a reason, multiple reasons 20 year old girls can be single.
- They're simply too busy with life, career, education, or finances.
- They aren't interested in dating.
- They have crushes and are in the process of gaining the courage to ask them out.
- They have trouble dating and aren't having success.
- They may not be straight, or be sexual if anything.
Secondly, why is the advice geared towards men? Women aren't these perfect little beings that are just waiting for their prince, they're flawed beings too who might need advice. Imagine telling young women "Oh you're interested in a guy? Just wait and do nothing. If he doesn't notice you, be ready for boxed wine and nine cats." Like what does that help with?
Step 1: Stop playing video games
Already at the first level and we're running into a problem. Stop playing video games? As if women don't make up half of gamers? Really?
And of course nothing says Boomer like being against video games.
Step 2: Head to great clips and get that lettuce cleaned up
I think he means the brocolli cut, which yes it should go. It's the Zoomer mullet.
However, Great Clips? Really? Great Clips is what I imagine boomers go to for their haircut. The worst haircuts come from there. I'm not taking advice from some guy who looks like this:
This dude looks like TinTin and Butthead put on Potara earrings from Dragonball Z. His hair looks like how I used to draw hair at 10 years old. At this point, just shave it off.
What is it with boomers and wanting to keep hair at the shortest length possible? I swear they freak out when some guy's hair is half an inch too long than what they're used to, where have they been since the hippy movement?
Sephiroth, after burning down GreatClips, circa 2026, colorized.
So let's save this stock photo for later:
Step 3: Hit a shower (when dating hygiene is critical)
Okay, I will agree with this. I mean it should go without saying.
Step 4: Go clean your car
Cleaning your car is all good and everything, but a large group of people do live in cities, which includes transportation, so they don't need a car.
But I will take your advice a bit further; MAKE IT FUCKING FLY!!
If your car can't fly, you ain't her prince of the night sky.
Step 5: Sign up for a yoga class/Step 6: Go to the yoga class
How about no? Why specifically yoga? Snide separation on the steps aside, it's completely arbitrary, hence why it's purple.
This step falls apart completely when the next step in taken into consideration.
Step 7: Ask a cute [girl] for her phone number at yoga class (yes you can meet girls IRL and not just on the apps - 10/10 the Dirt Dog highly recommends)
I would NEVER recommend making approaches at the gym. Women who do yoga are there to decompress after a stressful day, they don't need some norwooded Butthead-looking motherfucker asking them if they're single.
Rather than suggesting just yoga, it could be more sociable coed activities. Maybe try something like volunteer work, at a cafe, anyplace where it's more sociable.
Also get a different name, DirtDog is not as good a nickname you think it is. In fact, I'm calling him Chris Hatch from now on, you can't just decide you have a nickname, and anyone reading this please do the same. Anyone saying they're TJ, say that no, they're Timothy Joseph.
Step 8: Follow up within 2 days with a phone call and ask them out for this coming weekend Friday or Saturday night.
Okay, hold on. You do realize that calling isn't the main form of communication, it's texting.
It is fine to call, but the reason this is in red is because it's too presumptious. I would highly recommend trying to figure out her preferred method of communication. Calling is not respecting her time, texting is more casual.
Step 9: IMPORTANT - come up with a good game plane for date night. Get a dinner reservation, get an activity planned. Let them know in advance what you are doing so they can dress appropriately. I know you are gunna roll off the couch and head to date night, but they are not. They are going to stress about what to wear and call at least 6 different people on FaceTime to ask their opinion.
First off, NO DINNER RESERVATIONS FOR THE FIRST DATE! Go with something more casual. Maybe coffee, maybe Topgolf, maybe an arcade. I know it's hard for you to fathom, but women can like video games, granted it's mostly Call of Duty and sportsball games, but they still count. (Someone let me know if any woman finally discovers Final Fantasy 7)
Second off, let's be real, women don't put that much effort on a first date, and that's the point. It's to make sure you get to know someone first. That's all. Save the fancy dinners for date 3 or 4 or something.
The reason I suggest something simple is to get to know someone mutually, like finding out if she isn't some entitled gold digger, or if you're some loser who plays Nikke and about as exciting as a video from TheQuartering.
Step 10: I highly recommend you bring flowers to the door step. I’m not covering that you go to the doorstep, because if you don’t do that you have no hope here. Women want men to date them. You don’t need to break the bank on flowers. Head to Trader Joe’s. Grab 2 different kinds of flowers. If you don’t know what matches find the closest looking lady to your mom at TJ’s and ask her. Wrap the 2 flowers into 1 bouquet with paper. Bonus Points you can cut open a TJ bag and use that as the paper.
On the topic of going all out initially, having flowers might be a form of lovebombing, so you have to be careful. And don't assume she might like flowers, what if she likes other things? What if she wants to give you gifts?
The takeaway here is that you shouldn't try too hard or go all in at first, you may waste money. And don't show up at her doorstep on the first date, she might not want you knowing where she lives.
As for finding what matches by finding "the closest looking lady to your mom at TJ’s and ask her." I may need a little more clarification, because this is worded strangely.
Step 11: Be a gentleman on the date. She isn’t there to hear your life story. Ask her about her. For every 1 question you answer, ask her 3. Open Doors, pay for the meal, be polite.
It should go without saying that to be a gentleman is very important. However, being a gentleman is not opening doors, bringing flowers, trying to force three questions after she asks one, or anything else. Being a gentleman is trying to understand what women want on individual levels, respecting their boundaries, aknowledging their agencies, figuring their wants and needs, their preferences, things like that.
So I am noticing a contradiction with this step; He says to be a gentleman, but says you should ASSUME what women want, show up at their doorstep, cold approach them in a place where they don't want to be bothered, bring them flowers when they might not want it, or trying to shower them with money.
On a final note, if she's not here to listen to your story, she's not into you, and if she's not into you and on this date, you forced her on this date. If you had to force this date, you are not her type at all. Because if girls are into you, they will ask a lot of questions about you and are here to hear about your life story. Yes, I know this will be a surprise for boomers like DirtDog here, but girls can be interested in you, I first experienced that at 12, and I can tell you it just happens naturally and spontaneously.
It's guys like Chris Hatch that are the reason why women have to bring pepper spray, has to use the gray rock strategy, and has bring the DUFF when they go to the bar. At least I will, having read this post, I need a DUFF right now, and I'm a guy.
Provided you follow most of this guideline you are highly likely to get yourself an opportunity for date number 2.
No, doing all of this is going to get someone banned from yoga, or even get a guy a restraining order, or worse jail time. Just saying "most" isn't going to guarantee I won't criticize this post, because I will.
Keep going until you find someone that you can’t imagine not being around all the time. That’s when you have found a good one for you.
If you keep going, you can find yourself with a restraining order. There is such a thing as a sunken cost fallacy. Dating isn't this rigid step by step process, it's not like putting together IKEA furniture where you have to follow each step to a T, it's a dynamic process that involves many variables like boundaries, values, preferences, and honest communication. It isn't just going to yoga classes and doing the bare minimum of anything.
So far, lots of this is outdated, predatory, and manipulative behavior. I would not recommend doing any of this. If you really wanted a serious relationship, you have to understand the woman on an individual level, what you suggest is you treat women like trophies, and young men will get the idea that women are vending machines where they input gentleman tokens and get dates dispensed.
So then what happens is the guy fails, gets resentful, has it in his head that women "owed" him a relationship, betrayed their end of the bargain, and guess what? He ends up on the Manosphere.
So remember the GreatClips stock photo? I can imagine folloing most of the advice Christ Hatch gave will go down like this:
My life is complete with my wife as my companion. I wish you the same fortune in life. Happy Hunting.
Who the fuck says companion when talking about their wife? Also just because it worked for you doesn't mean it worked for everyone else. I get it, you're into yoga, you found a girl who likes flowers, appreciates traditional courtship, and likes fancy dinners, but not every girl out there is like this. Some women out there might not like flowers, maybe they want to do the approaching, maybe they want to give you gifts, some girls would prefer they pick you up, so try and be more perceptive about these things.
Trying to do this step by step process, you may encounter a variable that's not going to align with the script. What then? What if someone gets kicked out of the yoga studio? What would happen if she misses that call? What if she does the approach first? What if she gives the guy some gift at his doorstep, what if she suggests going to another place instead?
There is always a chance it will go offscript, are you saying there is no chance of that happening?
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